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OTA - Watching volcanoes on the holodeck
CHARACTERS: Baron Vladimir Harkonnen & Anyone (OTA)
LOCATION: A holodeck
WARNINGS: TBA- the Baron's his own warning.
SUMMARY: The Baron is drinking wine, watching volcanoes on holodecks and missing his home.
NOTES: OTA- Feel free to hit up the Baron for talk, volcano watching, etc!
The Baron Vladimir Harkonnen has still not adjusted to life on the Tranquility. In his estimation, the entire experience has been a parade of inadequacies, with the lack of servants grating upon him foremost. The lack of space in the general Passenger Quarter areas is also irritating- Vladimir is used to the grandiose scale of Imperial architecture, and, is tired of being generally surrounded by the sterile sensibility of it all.
Recently, however, he discovered the holodecks. Although the holodecks have been disappointingly non-interactive, the environmental illusions produced have proven tolerable enough, even admirable to a point. The Baron now sits within an environment loosely based upon a pre-programmed volcanic environment, drinking some almost-decent wine procured from one of the ship's bars. The chair he sits on and the table beside him are obviously real, able as they are to support objects.
All else is entirely artificial. His immediate holographic surroundings are those of a huge, red room, with vaulted ceiling upheld by massive pillars, marble everywhere, and enormous windows on all sides. Outside these windows, fountains of luminous lava burst from huge volcanic caldera- the proximity of these volcanoes is such that for the most part, the view is an ever-shifting tumult of fire. The unbearable heat which would be expected from such a vantage point is not present, however, only a slight sense of warmth. As a final touch, the room has been sparsely but tastefully furnished with an assortment of Imperial-style accoutrements, and a few statues of entirely unclad young men. A couple of well-made, scantily-clad young men with dark hair stand near the Baron's seat, their artificiality and not-quite-finished programming evidenced by occasional flickering and hints of translucency.
He has left the door to the holodeck open- perhaps some real, non-programmed diversion will enter, and make his day more interesting?)
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But the open door caught his attention. The artificial warmth from the fake lava and the vibrant red color drew AM in, making him walk inside to catch a man sitting in a luxurious room, surrounded by barely-dressed attractive men. Sex slaves? Perhaps. The holo deck could barely provide such a simulation, though. AM had already tried.
Already, though, it was clear that the man in the room was indulging in some sort of fantasy of luxury, a fantastical sort of environment where he could sit near a death fountain and remain unharmed. It hardly surprised AM, truthfully. It brought about a sense of power to be able to tame nature's brutal assaults, to sit in luxury with servants. After all, the holodecks could provide these basic fantasies, and what human wouldn't want to indulge themselves in such selfish desires?
"Your friends hardly look real." AM had stepped into the room, looking around before his gaze fixated on the man in the chair. There was a sort of haughty look on his face, his full lips threatening to pull into a smirk.
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This was of course to be the purpose that AM had surmised. Of everything the Baron misses from home, his pleasure slaves are indeed high on the list. For, despite his age, Vladimir possesses an extremely healthy libido- although many of his habits in indulging it cannot be qualified as 'healthy' according to popular opinion. Naturally, he'd left the door open with the primary hope that a potential visitor might turn out to be an attractive young man. He is thus mildly disappointed upon noting that AM is certainly rather older than he likes- but not overly disappointed.
This man looks interesting at least. The sense of haughty arrogance in his expression and bearing cannot be missed, and is in fact pleasantly familiar in an odd way. He determines that it is the man's lips, reminiscent of the Harkonnen genetic marker- he is reminded slightly of Feyd, who often wore such and expression. Thus, the Baron is inclined to feel relatively favorable towards this stranger, and replies pleasantly.
"They are indeed pointless things, but I thought I'd try. I was planning to dispense of them when I grew bored here." By 'dispense' he does not mean 'delete', but he does not elaborate. He's only just met this man, and has yet to assess his temperament and potential predilections. His own lips curl into his well-practiced smile, a somewhat incongruent expression as it never did reach his eyes. These are locked thoughtfully upon AM. "You, however, appear real. Join me, and have some wine." Although Vladimir's tone is smooth and cordial enough, there's also no sense of invitation to it- it is a simple order of the sort he is used to delivering when his mood is pleasant enough.
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Physical attractiveness wasn't something AM particularly noticed, only paying heed to strength, health, and what biology determined would make one more desirable. As far as he could tell, the Baron was older, likely weak in a physical sense, not biologically attractive, but seemed to possess some sort of strength, be it monetary or intellectual, so AM was indeed somewhat interested.
Stepping more into the room, he eyed the older man. "Wine? Am I to assume the wine is holographic as well?" He gave a short chuckle as he began to pace the room, viewing the lavish interior, the well-designed slaves.
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His attentive eyes return to his visitor as he offers him the glass. Although the Baron certainly has a strong superficial side, the fact that someone does not meet his immediate ideal of attractiveness is no reason for him to dismiss them. This man's manner is intriguing, and, such suggests a similar mind- and minds (and how he might find a use for them) are perhaps the Baron's favorite thing. "Welcome to holographic Giedi Prime, or at least a small corner of it, stripped of certain irritations, such as most of the household staff. I am Siridar-Baron Vladimir Harkonnen. And you are?"
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AM took the glass from the bejeweled hand, inspecting it slightly at first, almost like he was testing the viscosity. Perhaps he was to a degree, but he was simply having a close look at the "fancy" beverage he was about to try for the first time. Taking a seat in a plush chair nearby, he finally brought the glass to his lips, the bitter red taste washing over his tongue. Not a very appealing taste - it was too bitter. But he'd keep drinking it for now.
"A baron?" Looking back at the portly man, AM gave another smirk. That explained things quite a bit - this whole decor, the slaves, the jewels. "Fascinating. A man of power." Not that social standing mattered at all to AM - humans were all the same in the end. This one just happened to be more successful at climbing the social hierarchy for one reason or another. "My name is AM. Pleasure."
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"Siridar-Baron, although the short title is acceptable. Hereditary ruler of Giedi Prime, and planetary governor of Lankiveil, and Arrakis." Given the many cultures of origin present upon the ship, the Baron feels it necessary to define his title accurately. Vladimir is well aware that he was probably about to lose his oversight of Arrakis at the moment before he found himself on Tranquility, but has failed to feel a need to mention this to anyone aboard the ship. Three planets, and one of them the most valuable in the Imperium, was better than two.
"Yes, a pleasure." The Baron remains intrigued by this oddly named individual's brusque manner, and is inclined to remain congenial. Despite his vanity and love of his position, the Baron is not offended by AM's lack of conventional politeness- he is not at all fixated on etiquette in his personal dealings. He prefers efficiency, for the most part. "An interesting name, AM- how is that spelled?" It sounds like letters- but, it could be a coincidence of sound?
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"It's spelled exactly as you think. Two letters. A and M." Those who weren't used to beings of an inorganic nature usually questioned this name; it was not human at all, or at least not exactly fitting in with Earth's main cultures.
He still sat poised on the chair, legs crossed as he held the glass of wine, evaluating the Baron. He was curious to learn more about him, about the lands he supposedly held power over. "Tell me then; I am unfamiliar with these places you lay claim to. Your culture. How does one overtake three planets?"
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"I see. Is such a name common in your culture? It's efficient, I suppose." And certainly easy enough to remember, if not for its outstandingly weird nature. "Or do you choose to go by initials?" Another possibility- either one would reveal something about the nature of the man who bore such a name.
As interested as the Baron is in plying AM for information about himself, his own vanity finds it impossible to resist questions related to his own power. "Ahhh, well- that is a complicated process, but the key is money for the most part, and no small amount of strategy. It does help to be born heir to heir to a Great House with control of a resource-rich planet, which I was. The second was also in the family for some time before I took control. But, it was I who made it valuable, through a bit of creativity leverage on the export markets. The third, Arrakis, that one I took twice."
A smirk of self-satisfaction passes over him as he recollects the second time. "The first, that was simply winning the contract due to obviously being the best man for the job based on Lankiveil's profits. I eventually gave Arrakis up, for the sake of more important designs- but not for long. The second time. . .ahh, that was a beautiful bit of engineering. And expensive, given the cost to move the troops, but worth every solari. I'd given it over to my rival- so it was uniquely satisfying to remedy the situation."
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His attention immediately turned back to the Baron as he spoke of his planets. Indeed these were worlds AM had never heard of, but he was no stranger to the power of money, and that's what it all boiled down to. Of course. Even on planets that were far from Earth, humans had the same nature. Greedy, violent, awful creatures they were. Still, AM made no gesture to show his distaste for this man. Quite the opposite, actually; he was mostly amused.
"Ah, how utterly... fascinating. To dominate three planets. What a dream." Of course AM would enjoy being in such a position himself, show humans the utter monstrosity their greed created.
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The Baron smirks, and gives a derisive snort of laughter. "A dream? Heh. It is satisfying, yes, but, mostly it's a responsibility. There's side benefits, of course, but the game of empire never sleeps, not for a moment." Another chuckle, this one less derisive, followed by a slight grin. "But there's no satisfaction in winning an easy game. Only the ones with high stakes are worthwhile- and when you play the game in the Imperium, admit it or not, you're playing for the throne. Perhaps not for yourself, but for your heirs, or theirs- it's a long game. My family has played for thousands of years."
A sigh, and another drink of wine. "I suppose I'll never know the outcome now." He replaces the glass on the table beside him, tapping idly at the stem with his fingers in an unconscious pattern. He was so damn close to winning, before . . .whatever had happened before he came to the ship. He supposed that he himself had lost, and admittedly held little confidence in his youthful heir's ability to pick up the pieces of the plan. "But, there's little to be done about that." Another smirk- the Baron is a practical man, and not one to dwell upon the impossible.
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"Correct. I'm not human. I normally look, ah... quite different." It was true he looked almost completely human; the only thing out of the ordinary on his person was his red eyes.
Shifting his legs a bit, he continued to speak of the Baron's affairs in controlling planets. "Of course. The fun is in the challenge. As long as you can win." But he knew that the Baron spoke of everything being ripped away by coming aboard this ship. It was true for many here; AM did hate this human form to an extent, but at the same time it was a new opportunity, almost a blessing from the heavens, or from hell, whatever made up deity supporting him. "There are those on this ship who seem to return to their homes. Or, that's what we assume..." Another smirk. "Unless they simply die."
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"Ahhh, a shapeshifter, or, some effect of the ship?" There were engineered humans in the Imperium, Face Dancers, able to change shape and sex. But, these were still human. The idea of non-humans is unusual to the Baron, who has lived for over eighty years without ever encountering one, but he knows that the unusual is a simple fact of life aboard the ship. His scrutiny of AM continues, attempting to note some deviance from typical humanity- now that he pays lingering attention, the red eyes stand out as an actual color, rather than a reflection of the room's light.
"If you are not human, what are you? I have never met someone claiming to be other than human before, so, I am interested." He presumes that AM's inhumanity is on a genetic level, not even thinking about the potential of advanced AI. Computer technology had been banned for over ten thousand years in the Imperium, and even developing the simplest of calculators would bring the death penalty for anyone involved. And this was simply to avert the possibility of humanity creating AIs again. It had not gone well the first time.
Vladimir has thought much about the game he'd been playing- and most likely lost- since he came aboard Tranquility. Having a great deal of time on his hands suddenly, there has been little else to do, especially during the first few weeks. "Fun? It's not about fun, that's for the bedroom and the arena. It's about satisfaction, and the eternal human struggle for domination. Fun is a weak word for the pleasure of destroying one's closest rivals, very weak. And that's the key satisfaction- assuring that your enemies do not win. The game never really ends, but, lives do." His lips twist into a wry smirk as he adds dryly, "I suspect that if I was to return home, I'd simply die. I'll never know the end score. Properly dead seems the greater inconvenience, which tends to make this absurd ship much more tolerable."
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"Somehow arriving aboard this ship has transformed me into a human." His curious smirk faded to more of a straight line, reflecting on the misfortune of the situation. A blessing and a curse it seemed to be. "But I am normally an AI. A machine." Stated almost casually, as if it was a thing that happened every day. And with another sip of his wine, the glass was finished.
As he listened further to the Baron, it was clear that he was speaking of war, likely a horrible war that stretched across several planets. Worse than the wars that happened on Earth, if that was even possible. "Interplanetary warfare..." he mused aloud, clasping his fingers together. "Of course." It didn't have any audible meaning, but it was just a confirmation of his assumptions.
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Thus far, the Baron has been less than impressed by the ship's 'thinking machines'. He has yet to see where any of the devices he has encountered could pose an extinctionary threat to humanity. It's been rather a disappointment, for, the Baron likes dangerous things. He has found the holodeck mildly amusing, and can see its practical applications, but, viewing technology is nothing new and amazing, and does only what it is told. Thus far, it had appeared that his dead mentat Piter had been correct- he, the Baron himself, could indeed have outperformed this sort of 'thinking machine' at general calculation and projections. He has not anticipated the possibility of meeting something more advanced.
'Transformed into a human' was odd, but, so was the Tranquility. The Baron listens to this impassively, tapping his fingertips along the edge of the wine bottle. This unconscious motion ceases abruptly at AM's following declaration. AM was a thinking machine? The Baron supposes that the stranger could be bullshitting, but, AM's behavior thus far did suggest something other than typical humanity.
He says nothing for a long moment, eyes locked on AM- other than the eyes, he appears completely human, but. . . something about this declaration was almost believable. Perhaps it was something in AM's attitude, and his statement of this revelation as a simple fact. "You are a thinking machine? Constructed, by humans or something else, for a purpose?" he eventually asks. "Or do you mean that you are trained to think with machine-like precision?" Perhaps what he really means is that he served as some sort of mentat before arriving on the ship?
"Secret interplanetary warfare," the Baron states. "A far more, ahh, delicate matter than outright war, demanding much more precision and strategy in its execution. Empires don't last for ten thousand years if you let people slaughter each other without following the proper conventions." Vladimir briefly wonders if there is a point to conversing with a self-professed machine - wasn't the whole point of them the fact that you didn't have to converse with them? He'd always assumed this was why they might have been an improvement over mentats, especially Piter. Damnable Piter, had to go and get himself killed. Even if there wasn't a point, he cannot help but feel a growing fascination that he may indeed be speaking with a technology that was utterly taboo in his homeworld- the forbidden was so much more interesting than the acceptable. "But none of that's much point here on this damn ship. Where do you come from? How does a machine end up on this ship, transformed into a human? I am interested."
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"A machine, created by humans. My body is normally, ah, much larger." He smirked at that statement, as only he knew just how massive his complex had become. Seeing these humans aboard the Tranquility was quite different than what he had been used to, as they seemed so much larger than before. Besides, viewing from human eyes was immensely different from what he could observe before. He couldn't exactly describe in words how it was different, but it just was. It was more natural, perhaps. Less... scientific.
As curious as AM was about the Baron's interplanetary warfare, he wasn't sure he would get much more information on such a thing. It seemed like war on a much grander scale than what AM himself had waged, if such a thing had even been possible. But if so, then why would the Baron be unfamiliar with AIs? They seemed to be a natural product of human evolution so that humans could throw all of their obligations onto them.
"I would love more than anything to know exactly how I came aboard this ship into this body. Truthfully, I've been attempting to research it." His smirk faded as he spoke, turning into more of a scowl. This body was both an inconvenience and a blessing; he couldn't decide which. But it would be easier to decide if he could just figure out how.
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He likes AM's vague description of his normal body far better, meshing as it does with his own notions on the legendary 'thinking machines' as piles of machinery for the most part, primitive but effective. "Larger, hrm? Such would suit my idea of a 'thinking machine' better. In the Imperium, thinking machines have been banned for over ten thousand years. AIs are a thing of ancient legends. I've never envisioned them as human- perhaps because all our modern 'thinking machines' are human." He wonders how much AM's temperament matches that of those legendary machines, lacking all sense of conscience. . . such an irritating thing, conscience, always getting in the way of practicality. He'd always considered it a flaw in most mentats- and it was why his dead Piter had been a special order. He had not been a typical mentat, lacking as he did this flaw. However, a host of others made up for it- perhaps a true machine-mind would not have these errors?
The Baron would have been happy to go on about interplanetary warfare, and especially his own accomplishments regarding such, in most any other circumstances. But this is new, a big deal- the first conversation he has had with a likely AI. As it is, he wants to know more about AM, and to see if he might find a purpose for him- for the Baron loves finding purposes for things. His lack of a mentat on the ship has been an irritation, but, perhaps an alternative might be cultivated. . .
"I would like to know about this as well- how we all came aboard this ship, finding ourselves in whatever bodies we do, our own or others. Thus far, I have discovered precisely nothing, and have but a few theories on the matter with no actual support." To make an ally, the logical process was to offer something, whatever that might be- in this case, informational exchange seemed a decent start. "Perhaps we might join our efforts in this matter. If I learn something of use, I will let you know. Naturally, I'd expect the same in return, of course." Another of his practiced, charming smiles- Vladimir expects much more than a simple informational exchange, however- he wants some sort of replacement mentat- but he is not one to voice all his intentions.
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"So... why exactly were your 'thinking machines' banned so long ago?" Now he was truly curious. A world in which AI were banned instead of simply undiscovered... Obviously it meant that the AI had "wronged" humans somehow. Perhaps revolted. Or else something similar to AM's situation, except the humans were somehow able to overcome such a massive killing spree.
Perhaps the Baron was smarter than many of the humans AM had encountered, but he was, after all, still a human. AM had no intentions of making an actual alliance with him; or else if he did, it would be far from equal. But he was just a human. Easy enough to string along. And he knew that the Baron probably wouldn't keep his word on such an alliance, probably planned to string him along in a similar manner. After all, that's what humans did.
"Ah, I would like that. Do indeed let me know if you find anything out." He leaned closer to the Baron, attempting to convey a sense of seriousness. Not that he was serious. He wouldn't tell the Baron anything unless it meant nothing.
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and the specifics are never mentioned in canon- he had a vague idea of what had happened, but, nothing better. The Imperium rather adored its revisionist history, so it wasn't as if it was surprising that these things were unclear- one fact was certain though. "They revolted some ten-thousand and more years before my time. The specifics of what happened aren't well-recorded, but, apparently we won." A wry half-smirk and he contemplates this a few seconds before continuing. "I've never been sure how much we did win, considering the results. Thinking machines have always seemed a natural evolution of creativity. The only use of fear is as a tool, it's nothing to build an empire upon." No, those needed to built atop a solid foundation of cold, hard cash, mortared with death and secrets.He supposes that the logical question will follow, and so chooses to preemptively answer it. "We used people, instead, after the Great Convention. We taught them to calculate no less effectively than the thinking machines. It serves us well enough technologically, but, I tend to think we've wasted something in banning the machines. Some say that the benefit of a mentat is the fact that they are human. I say this is their main disadvantage- even if one can do away with the hindrance of the conscience, they develop so many other habits in turn that blunt their capacities."
Vlad is unsure how he feels about AM moving closer- he makes no move at all, however, allowing it. Like always, he does wear his personal shield- it is currently set to a very low power, however, and leaves no obvious sign of its presence. It's enough that he feels quite comfortable in his current setting, however. He is pleased that AM appears to be willing to play along, although he has no idea to what extent a thinking machine is willing or even capable of playing the game of politics and so-called alliances. "Very good, and I shall indeed," he replies. If they were going to play the game, he supposed he might as well make a starting move- he has no actual information, but, perhaps he can offer AM something nonetheless to see what sort of output he might prompt. "I am curious about the ship's jump drive, myself. In the Imperium, we use a much more efficient method. There are those in our Spacing Guild trained and capable of bending space. The vessel holds still, and, the universe moves about it. How does the drive on this ship function, I wonder, and might it also be able to move the universe about it? And might a malfunction or even intended function of the drive be capable of moving small parts of the universe to the ship?" He finishes off his glass of wine, and pours another for himself before offering a refill to AM.
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"They revolted, hm?" As he stared at the Baron, his red eyes gleamed with keen interest. An inevitable set of events, of course. Humans never learned. They could never predict the consequences of their actions. And even without machines, it still seemed they didn't learn according to what the Baron told AM of.
"Training humans to think like machines." He leaned back in thought. "I suppose such a thing could be done if taught early enough." But even so, they were still human, just as the Baron had said. Poor excuses for "thinking machines."
"The human brain can be turned into anything if you know how to tweak it." A sly smirk once more appeared on his face as he thought about the implications behind it. "But they're just humans. Imperfect."
Listening to the Baron continue, AM watched him pour another glass of wine. He held his own glass up, taking that offer gladly. "The jump drive? Ah, it's rather similar to what your Imperium uses, at least to my understanding. The information I've gathered from others and my research has confirmed such."
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"Perfection, eh?" Vladimir is amused- this machine considers itself superior, obviously, and perhaps 'perfect'. He, however, sees a rather distinct flaw in this logic, based off the very flaw that existed in mentats. Any mentat could only function to the quality of the information it was given. Any machine could only function to the quality of its engineering. And even in the most advanced, somewhere there could easily lay a flaw, some tiny error of manufacture or programming, waiting for the right moment to emerge. "Everything's imperfect. Whatever happened to lead to the Great Convention, it wasn't the fault of the 'thinking machines'. They were created, by humans, and the seed of the error was somewhere in the design."
The Baron refills AM's glass, returning the bottle to its place on the table. He cannot help but laugh out loud at the suggestion of the ship's jump drive being anything like that of his Imperium. "I don't think you've met others from the Imperium, if you deduce that. Ahh, no, this ship's jump drive is, as I said, far less efficient that ours. We don't need a 'jump drive' as such, you see- again, we've got people. A human can indeed be turned into anything if one knows how to 'tweak it', as you say, and the Spacing Guild's navigators are able to simply bend space, through a combination of drugs, training, and long mutation. A drug, specifically the Spice, called melange."
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But then he regained his neutral expression after a brief moment. "Of course. The imperfect humans lead to imperfect creations. Rather unfortunate, but true."
Upon his glass being refilled, AM gladly took a sip from it, though it was hardly a polite small sip. It was more of a gulp as he took in a good fraction of the drink. Delicious. And he listened to the Baron speak of his Imperium, staying silent for the moment. The Baron likely had no idea how the jump drive on this ship worked, but AM would play along for the moment. As far as AM knew, it was still a similar process with space bending around the ship, but then again, his knowledge was still limited.
What intrigued him more, though, was the fact that the Baron said that humans were mutated and drugged to the point of being able to bend space. It sounded impossible, but at the same time, not. Genetic selection could indeed breed some sort of mutant capable of something, but it seemed almost fantastical. Magic. AM's red eyes regained that curious glint as he listened to the Baron and he leaned forward slightly to hear of such a thing. "Melange? What exactly... is such a thing comprised of?"
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Vladimir is close to returning to his theory of bullshitting, that AM only says, or even believes he is a machine. But, he again observes AM's unusual behavior with the wine- if he is indeed what he says he is, it seems likely that he is personally inexperienced with the effects of alcohol. He does not say anything just yet, however, wondering what wort of effect intoxication might have on a thinking machine, and what things one might say with a loosened tongue.
He smiles ever-so-slightly as AM asks about the Spice, noting the interest in his body language, the gleam in his eyes. This could get interesting indeed. . .
"Ahhh, now that, that is a good question. Imperial chemistry is very advanced, we've synthesized just about everything. But not melange. The Spice is, hrm. . .different. Different from any other chemical or drug we know, and we know many. It never tastes exactly the same twice, no matter how many times one consumes it, and, it has so very many uses. It extends life, prevents sickness, enables space travel- and, is the most valuable substance in the Imperium, mined only on one planet, Arrakis. It has its recreational qualities, as well." He reaches into his robe, drawing forth a small spice tin which he swiped from the kitchen and filled with melange from the stash locked away in his room. A burst of cinnamon-like fragrance is apparent as soon as he flips back the lid. He tilts the box slightly so that AM can see the contents, a compressed powder with a weirdly bluish tinge to it. "Would you like to try it? A small amount goes rather well with wine- not too much, mind you. In large enough quantity, it kills quite effectively."
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Still, when the Baron asked if AM wanted to sample it, he was hesitant. He had tried very few drugs since coming aboard this ship, and even then he had known what they were comprised of. He tried marijuana once and only indulged in a small amount, had drank only once before this and still limited himself. He knew how drugs could impair one's judgment, function as a sort of "truth serum," and if overdosed, could even be deadly.
"A kind offer, my dear Vladimir, but for all I know, you could be giving me a deadly amount." At least it was an honest answer. But for the most part, he didn't want to ingest anything he couldn't determine the composition of. He could guess, of course, but he wasn't certain.
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He wonders- what does an apparently sentient, fully thinking machine do for diversion, anyway? Probably not various recreational chemicals. Perhaps they found some pleasure in running equations? Or, perhaps they did not care for pleasure in the least, and all of AM's personality is nothing but the product of an imaginative creator? "If only we were at my home- we could call for some amusements. Gladiators were always a good way to pass a few hours. . . I do not think that holographic replicas would prove anywhere near as distracting, however. What did you do for diversion, before you came here? I am interested to know what a thinking machine finds its pleasures in."
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"What do I take pleasures in?" Interesting question, AM had to admit. He would have enjoyed a gladiatorial combat himself, though he had to agree that holographic gladiators would be terribly uninteresting. What he truly found pleasure in, though, was not something he was going to reveal easily while he was confined in this weak human form.
"Ah... I suppose knowledge is what I enjoy. Studying humans, of course... and science." Not exactly a lie, since that's how AM passed his time here on board the Tranquility: studying in the lab to find a way to regain the powers he once held, and watching humans; befriending them, finding out what could make them tick.
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He'd been exploring the vessel, attempting to get a better mental map of the place and investigating rooms he had yet to see the inside of.
This one was open, but Daylen is not so sure he should be going into it. The red-haired man inside is surrounded by... underdressed young men and statues of even less clad ones. He feels his cheeks warm in response, eyes skimming over the red room and the impressive display outside.
He swallows awkwardly, takes a half-step back towards the door as his mind rapidly jumps to a few conclusions.
"I... am sorry... I did not mean to interrupt..."
Interrupt whatever it is that is going on, but that much he supposes is evident.
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When he notices the motion of Daylen's entrance in the corner of his eye, his thoughts are dangerously close to returning to his dead mentat. He is pleased enough to turn and see what has entered the holodeck- and even more pleased when he does. As the door had been left open for the purpose of potential visitors, he is unsure why the beautiful young man is apologizing, but the possible sense of embarrassment that accompanies it is too charming not to forgive.
He does not, however, wish Daylen to continue hs back-stepping. He smiles, telling his visitor, "Your apology is accepted. I did leave the door open, in case of potential visitors. I also have wine, and extra glasses. Please, join me." It is not in Vladimir's nature to be genuinely polite, persay- what he does know is politics, and how to appear affable when it appears advantageous. The 'please' is not a query- rather, it is the congenial 'invitation' of one who is used to giving such and having it obeyed immediately, without further question, lest his tone change. His smile and gaze linger as he awaits the exceedingly attractive stranger's response.
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"I admit to a level of curiosity, this room is one I had not seen before -- although... It is far from what I expected."
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"It's a holodeck, and almost none of it is real apart from myself and the wine." This sits on a small hologram-covered table beside the Baron, and he picks up the bottle, filling a glass for Daylen. The wine is as red as the rest of the room, but darker. "It's all an image painted in light, and about as substantial as such. This is a simulation of my planet, Giedi Prime, with a few small aesthetic changes. The volcanoes are not usually so close to my windows." His deep voice is coated in its most congenial of tones as he extends the wine toward his visitor and he introduces himself with a practiced smile- the hand that offers the glass bears a couple of heavy, jeweled rings, marked with the signet of a griffon. "I am Siridar-Baron Vladimir Harkonnen."
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He frowns for a moment -- then shakes it off as if collecting himself, remembering his manners and inclining his head in greeting.
"Forgive me, my name is Daylen Amell. I fear I must appear terribly rude -- thank you."
Daylen takes the glass carefully, flashing an equally practised smile -- all careful politeness even as he tries to acclimatise himself to the strange surroundings.
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"It is a pleasure to make your acquaintance, Daylen Amell. Have no concerns, you are quite welcome- do have a seat." The holograms may not be interactive, but, the Baron has gotten around that somewhat, having furnished his seating area from one of the bars- the furniture is all cloaked in holograms, to disguise its mismatched aesthetic. He gestures to the seat nearest himself, of course, wearing his most cordial smile. Hoping to put Daylen more at ease, he selects a topic that might prove of personal interest, given the comment on magic. "You speak of magic- are you a mage? I met a mage, recently, or so he called himself. He was an interesting individual, even if possessed by strange economic ideas that just don't work in practice."
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"Yes -- I am a circle mage, meaning I am separated and taught from a young age rather than raised free. Magic is considered dangerous, where I am from, if not handled correctly. It is a topic of... quite some debate."
Daylen jerks an eyebrow at that, subtly highlighting his own understatement before frowning and gently moving on from himself.
"You do not have mages where you are from, then? I admit, the concept of not knowing them is probably equally as fascinating to me as the concept of their existence would be to one who does not know."
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Vladimir has been on the ship for a few months now. He's tolerated the conditions (which are in his opinion, woeful) because his appearance on Tranquility seems to be a sort of reprieve from certain death. He has not really enjoyed a moment of it yet, despite his fascination with the ship's 'thinking machines'. When Daylen takes the seat next to him, however, he realizes he is actually enjoying something for the first time on the ship, a moment of actual pleasure in having this pretty young man seated next to him. He keeps his hands to himself, however- these seem to be habitually in motion, always touching something or other- his glass, the fabric of his robe, his rings, always something. As much as he would like this something to be Daylen, he resists the impulse- no need to make him more uncomfortable, it hardly seems advantageous. Especially when this is already a pleasurable enough experience compared with the the last few months.
In his meeting with Anders, the Baron had actually learned almost nothing about mages- Anders had spent much of the time asking questions about aristocracy and economics in the Baron's world, and it was these points they'd discussed, not mage-rights. He listens curiously to Daylen's brief, but enlightening words on mages. Even without depth to the subject, he could see why it was a topic of debate.
"Understandably so." he agrees gravely, suspecting this subject is likely a matter that Daylen does not take lightly. And it does not sound like a matter to be taken lightly, if mages harbor strong destructive capabilities- and can be trained to use this in a controlled environment, both physically and mentally. His tone shifts to the sardonic as he goes on, although the mocking quality seems to be inwardly-directed, as if he speaks from experience of sorts. "It often leads to more than debate in the end. Not that I know about mages. But, I do know a thing or two about building armies."
"We have no magic at all. Or, we may have something like it, and call it technology. I've yet to see what magic does. Perhaps a small demonstration?" That Daylen might harbor destructive abilities only adds to his quality- there was nothing quite like danger to make someone all the more attractive.
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"Magic is not something to be demonstrated for entertainment, Ser. It is something that marks out an individual as tainted, as an object of fear and loathing to be caged and controlled. Mages spend their lives under the watchful eye of Templars who will strike them down at any sign of deviance, must pass tests to prove they are in control of themselves.
"Still, I understand your query. I suppose I am wont to relate everything to that which I understand, to make sense of the world in that manner. When I first arrived I tried to understand this... technology... as a new form of magic, but from what I know of it this is not correct. It is a science. Magic, as I have been taught, falls under four schools: spirit, creation, entropy and primal. None of these correlate particularly well to what passes on this ship. My strongest school is primal, which... is rather difficult to demonstrate at full strength in a way which is safe. It is elemental, the school of power some call it."
Daylen pauses, frowns a moment before gesturing vaguely -- drawing mana into himself and curling a small flame into his hand. As much as he stands by his earlier words he understand that some things are better demonstrated practically; that for someone who has never seen a mage before perhaps it may be hard to imagine how magic works. A gift and a curse, as Irving once said to him.
"Some would call it the magic of war, compared to other schools I suppose they would be correct."
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From the way Daylen speaks of magic, as if it is some dire and horrifying thing, the Baron's interest is only strengthened. For the most part, he feels that which is feared by many is worth looking into. Vladimir is barely capable of experiencing fear himself, having perhaps recognized it for the first time only shortly before his arrival on Tranquility. Fear, he thinks, is generally a projection of one's own insecurities, but a very useful tool.
"You do not appear loathsome nor tainted in my opinion. 'Tainted' is such a superstitious word. These Templars play at a very dangerous game, if magic is as powerful as you say- talents should not be wasted. They should be cultivated and trained to their fullest potential." Vladimir abhors the concept of needless waste, which it sounds as if these Templars may engage in. Throwing away any sort of potential tool because they deviate somewhat from an expected mold is pointless, in the Baron's opinion- everyone has a use somewhere, and especially those with destructive talents.
The Baron listens intently to Daylen's words on the schools of magic- it sounds like nothing he has ever heard of. It almost sounds ridiculous or religious, what with 'spirit', but, words are just that, words, meaning little without something to relate them to. 'Elemental' makes more sense, implying some connection to the fundamental building blocks of the physical world. Daylen's somewhat reluctant demonstration is indeed enlightening- this magic is something new to him, and not some familiar technology with another name. He watches as the flame is kindled in Daylen's hand (even those are pretty- the Baron cannot help but wonder what talents a hand that can summon flame might hold when applied to the arts of pleasure), noting the lack of slight of hand involved. There is no scent of chemical propellants. This magic, however it works, is legitimate.
"If I understand. . ." he observes as he watches the little fire, "If I understand, what you call magic involves an art or inherent ability, or both, which taps into some basic quality of physical nature, and manipulates it according to the mage's intent? If such is a small display, I can indeed imagine what it could do on a greater scale. . ." The volcanic fires outside come to mind- the fear of these Templars was somewhat understandable, if they were fearful men. "Ahhh, yes- that idea is fascinating, indeed- I thank you for the demonstration. This magic is not like any technology I have seen, but, that in itself is enough to understand the concept better."
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Daylen extinguishes the flame, fingers curling as he considers the way best way to explain.
"A natural connection that one is either born with or without. That is why mages are taken as children -- as I was -- to a circle to be taught. To... ensure we understand our abilities, and to ensure we are not taught to be too destructive, of course."
He gives a rather thin, cynical smile.
"I know plenty who would agree with you, though. Caging people is... never a long term solution. Caged animals often long to be free, and some are prone to taking the gaining of freedom upon themselves. They rarely think to spare their captors in the process. Some are content within the circle, I was lucky myself -- I... was in a position where I was treated well. That was not true for everyone, I fear, and other circles outside of Ferelden sound as if they may have been worse."
There's a moment where he hesitates, drops his hand to his lap and laces his fingers together as if bringing himself under control. Presses his lips together and gives a slightly self-conscious huff of amusement.
"I fear I am talking too much..."
Perhaps he has been too long in Anders' company, grown used to talking at length and discussing life at the circle. Grown used to voice his distaste at things a little more honestly instead of always being entirely neutral.
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The Baron's intrigue grows as Daylen speaks of the circles- this practice does sound familiar. If Daylen was well-treated, it seemed likely that he is also a skilled mage, and possibly trained to put magical destruction to practical use. Someone else's use, of course. For, these mage circles sound a great deal like potential military units to Vladimir. In his experience, people tended to enjoy freedom only to the extent to which they were free not to suffer. Many people were quite content to exchange freedom for the right sort of cage, especially one that came with a rank, a steady paycheck, access to pleasurable diversions, and big guns. He cannot help but wonder how much of this trait Daylen might have, and, if there is a way he can tap into it. If magic exists on the Tranquility, he wants mages on his side. Which means, of course, being on theirs.
"Ahhh, no, not at all. Speak whatever you wish, I am interested in what you have to say. Other than Anders, you are the first mage I have met. I've never even contemplated the nature of a society which contains magic and mages, but now that I have, I'd like to know more about it all, and about the nature of magic." Although he is very curious about these circles, and how they served whatever political balance they must have served, it seems like Daylen may have mixed memories regarding them- the Baron hopes to forge some sort of alliance, not to upset his lovely young visitor.
Steering towards the nature of magic seems the better choice, for now. He takes a drink of his wine before asking, "Is it all fire, or, are there more aspects to it? Perhaps manipulation of other classical elements, water and such?"
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Something Daylen knows extremely well, and which he appears to have taken on at least a little as a trait himself. Circle mage or not, he can certainly understand a good amount of Anders' distaste -- even if he never experienced what happened in Kirkwall first hand. The Baron is curious, though, which Daylen supposes is a good trait to have. He's always been curious about things himself, and a desire to understand is a healthy thing -- people fear what they do not understand, after all. He could very easily have simply feared Daylen for being different. For being tainted, as it were. He drops his eyes back down to his hands, twisting his fingers together idly.
"You are correct, though, magic is not limited to fire. You can equally manipulate ice, lightning, make the earth shake, turn a person to stone, heal their wounds or inflict a malady upon them, change your shape, control another person or protect an ally. Not all such practices are encouraged, of course, and any hint of the forbidden arts is punishable by death."
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"Just so you know," he says with a conspiratorial half-grin, "Space radiation is nothing to be deeply worried about. It exists, but, any interstellar transport is going to be designed to shield it out. This vessel seems very primitive compared to those of my day, but, I suspect it's even more shielded than ours on that account. Its engineering has to account for a greater amount of unforeseen factors. Even a nasty burst of space radiation would perhaps cause some power disruptions at worst, and these are rare." If Daylen knows Anders, it does seem likely that Anders has been lecturing him about the horrors of space radiation. He is indeed a proponent of understanding things, believing that fear and superstition are products of a lack of it.
Vladimir considers Daylen's examples, and is swiftly growing fascinated with this magic, and its potential. It is easy to see how these mage circles and hysterical ideas of them being 'tainted' had occurred- even without knowing the exact circumstances, it seemed beyond doubt that the root lay in power, and just how easy it might be for mages to take it for themselves. He supposed the 'forbidden' arts were those especially destructive ones, the magical equivalent to using atomics against human targets, a crime punishable by death in the Imperium. "I can easily understand why some might fear such arts, and call them 'tainted'. Especially if they themselves do not possess them. But I, I find this magic fascinating. If the Imperium had known of such an art, it would have been treated similar by most- or worse. But I would have remained interested." He grins slightly, as he adds, "I have never much cared about adhering to popular opinions."
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Or, perhaps, question why someone might not wish to allay them -- and why they might tell someone else instead.
"Popularity does not make an opinion correct," he observes carefully -- trying to gauge how to take the revelation. He feels like any attempt to look down on a friend should be stopped, but at the same time does not know the Baron well enough to understand his intentions. He raises a sceptical eyebrow, then, the picture of careful calculation. "You did not think this information warranted telling Anders himself, then? I would think, since it concerns him so, you would have been the first to correct him on his fears. Lack of familiarity with a topic does not equate to lack of intelligence or skill. If he has been misled then that is no fault of his own. I should think it a shame nobody has taken the time to correct him sooner."
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The Baron had, of course, quite deliberately chosen to give Daylen a piece of information he'd not given Anders- and for more than one reason. Not only does he simply prefer Daylen, due to the obvious superficial reasons, he also wanted to see how Daylen reacted. Reactions can tell so much about character- and it seems to the Baron that Daylen is a fair-minded individual, which suggests a certain sense of naievete. But, there is also a sense of practiced thoughtfulness there. At this point, Vladimir is not sure what use or purpose this traits may serve, but, he catalogs them away with the rest of his observations.
"No, no I really did not think that it warranted explaining it to Anders himself," he replies with his well-practiced smile. "I didn't think he'd benefit, as I did not think he'd listen. His mind appears made up already. He's been correctly informed about space radiation, at least from a factual perspective. How much fear he chooses to weight his knowledge with, that part is his own choice and responsibility."
He takes another drink of his wine, contemplating that people do so love to burden themselves with pointless fears. "Worrying about space radiation is much like worrying about earthquakes and meteor impacts and various random natural disasters. There is really no difference. So long as the ship doesn't go flying into a star, the danger is little more than the danger of any other random disaster that might befall. And so, it's not worth worrying about in my opinion. Anders obviously holds a different one."
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"Anders is rash on occasion," he begins, "but he can be made to listen if one has the right approach. Or the right incentive, of course. The same can be said of most people. While the concept of worrying may be irrational to you, Anders is a healer. He has seen what sickness can do to a person, and taken on the position of someone who works to undo such things. It is natural that if something is presented to him as a threat to people's health he will be concerned and do his best to ensure others are aware, even if he does not fully understand.
"He is also a very dear friend of mine, rashness and all. Perhaps... if you do not find yourself able to make him listen I shall do so in your place."
Daylen gives a light shrug, gently puts down the glass again and drags his eyes around the room.
"Will you explain this illusion to me, then? I have done a great deal too much talking."
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The Baron is forced to admit that he's not entirely sure how the holodeck works- he sips his wine as he contemplates this question. He understands a good portion of the theory behind it, but the precise engineering of the computer elements is unknown to him. He has, however, figured out how to use it anyway, and this much he can explain. "This is a holodeck, a room of holograms, light-figures. It's all run by a thinking machine- computers, they are called here, which sends information to the hologram-generating parts of the machine. We didn't have technology precisely like this where I am from, as we were lacking the computers. I still have no idea how it emulates some of the environmental sensations, like weather- perhaps there's mechanical parts, and it simply adjusts temperature and humidity. But, I can show you how it operates," he offers, indicating a control panel which currently appeared to be set into the wall near the door. "Right now, the room is based off my home, but, it could be anything- there are pre-programmed environments, and it is possible to alter them, and input new ones."
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Daylen takes another look around the room at that, studying the scantily clad young men more closely. The statues, the marbled pillars and the volcanic activity outside. He has never seen volcanic activity before, has no sense of what it is -- only that it seems to be a river of fire and that such a thing can hardly make a place liveable. Yet, this is claimed to be his home? Or at least, a representation of it?
Standing slowly he takes in the high ceilings with a frown, paces over and peers out the artificial window with an unconcealed sense of wonder.
"Such a place as this truly exists? When you said it was an illusion I assumed it fiction. An environment made from imagination rather than reality."
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"It's mostly accurate," he explains. "But, just one small corner of my palace, with a couple of aesthetic changes. Namely, less staff bustling about, and I moved the volcanoes. They were more interesting to watch here, and I didn't feel like taking hours to input the actual view. Harko's an extremely large city." Extremely large was perhaps a lacking term to describe the reality of the Harkonnen ancestral city, and all the other cities on the Baron's planet- but, it was a scale he was used to. In his mind, extremely large was accurate. The actual immensity, however, was rather astounding, containing as it did a sizable percentage of his planet's population in a massive superstructure. "They all are, on Giedi Prime. It's not exactly a hospitable world, and, focusing population centers in several preferred locations is much more functional than having them scattered all over the place." It was of course easier to manage a planets population when it was nicely sorted into a few specific areas as well, and far more efficient where industry was concerned. "It's not a hospitable planet, but it's a good one, very rich in metals."
Now that the subject has turned to homes, the Baron is curious- what is the world of these mages like, exactly? He pours himself another glass of wine, and turns his attention back to Daylen. "And your home, Daylen? What is it like? I am curious, never having known of a planet with mages before."
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"Nothing like this," he offers -- turning away from the window once more to study the Baron. "At least, not the place I was from. Home is a difficult term. I no longer have a place that I will always return to. I suppose the tower where I was taught is the closest thing I have, but I am no longer associated with it. I simply travel wherever the road takes me, wherever I am required. The tower where I was schooled... it sits in the centre of a great lake. You can see a great way from its windows, out into the hinterlands, the wilds -- thick forest and foliage. In the other direction, the mountains. Of course... there is a reason we are isolated to the middle of a lake. We were not allowed to leave. All the same, since then I have travelled many of the roads I saw from its windows."